The Murder Police Podcast
The Murder Police Podcast
Never Forget Little Timmy | Part 4
What happens when a family is caught in the crossfire of misinformation and speculation? Join us as we unravel the emotional journey of Timothy Sterner's disappearance, guided by his uncle Terrance and grandmother Sandy. They share their personal battles against the tide of falsehoods and rumors, highlighting how these distractions have made an already painful situation nearly unbearable. From nightmarish tales of body mutilation to disturbing theories of secret burials, this episode sheds light on the critical importance of letting law enforcement operate without interference, stressing the need for truth amidst chaos and confusion.
But the story doesn't end there. We shift focus to the power of community support in the face of tragedy. Discover the heartfelt efforts to keep Timmy's memory alive, from distributing poignant bumper stickers to fostering a collective yearning for justice and closure. We also discuss the profound moral weight carried by those who hold pieces of the puzzle, the inner turmoil of families left in limbo, and the shared belief that true justice may someday come from a higher power. It's a poignant exploration of the struggle to not become just another statistic and the relentless pursuit of answers.
Finally, we reflect on the themes of resilience and redemption through Timmy's life and the struggles he faced. Through personal anecdotes and a touching letter from Timmy himself, we celebrate his determination to change, despite the adversities that shadowed him. This episode also introduces you to the Murder Police Podcast, a powerful platform hosted by Wendy and David Lyons, dedicated to honoring crime victims and preserving their stories. Subscribe, leave a review, and join us in supporting this meaningful mission of remembrance and justice.
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It gets tough down there.
Sandy Sterner:I even heard at one time I guess I better not give any names, but took him and they butchered him like a deer and then threw the parts in my God in a barrel and put holes in the barrel and dumped him over the side.
Wendy Lyons:Warning the podcast you're about to listen to may contain graphic descriptions of violent assaults, murder and adult language. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the Murder Police Podcast. Thank you for joining us as we continue to look into the missing person case of Timothy Sterner in the episodes we call Never Forget Little Timmy. In this episode, we continue our talk with Timmy's uncle, terrence Sterner, and Timmy's grandmother, sandy Sterner. The more you listen, the more you'll learn.
Terrance Sterner:It's a shame on all parties of what's the consequences and that repercussions and everything of the whole situation that it could come down to.
Sandy Sterner:Yeah, but the stories you know.
Terrance Sterner:You know and the people that love Timmy.
Sandy Sterner:You hear the story well what's-his-face said and through. I didn't even know Timmy smoked yeah.
Terrance Sterner:Mom was like what, he never smoked.
Sandy Sterner:And somebody threw this pack. Somebody that murdered him threw this pack down when he walked in the door to this girl and said, there, he won't be using these anymore. And then you hear a lot about the devil worship and you hear this and and you hear innuendos and you see these facebook things that are just sent to me because I don't do Facebook and you're going. You know what. You better just let the officers do their job. That because they can sort this out. When Ellen stepped in, she got, she was like a hero, you know.
Terrance Sterner:And.
Sandy Sterner:God bless her. I mean mean family's family, no matter what, and you know she's worried about her own son.
Terrance Sterner:Yeah, and because these people, once they get by with something, and I don't know how many more they will hurt or how many they've hurt before, that nobody knows about you know back to that misinformation that makes it 10 times tough on a family is all the garbage out there and the armchair quarterbacks and the people who have theories and then they pose them out as as being facts, and when you're in the position that you're all in, where you want answers, that's just got to hurt even more and being me yeah, it's just, uh, yeah, it hurts, it really does, because it's like you know, the people that come to me and tell me something about the story or what happened to him, yeah, they come to me with fear and a cry in their eye and they're so sorry and I'm like you didn't do nothing. You know well, this is what happened and I'm like okay, here's the fourth story, or fifth or sixth, or seventh.
Wendy Lyons:I think I'm down to about eight stories now, so the stories are just very different.
Terrance Sterner:All of them are just Some of them at the most part. I've heard a lot of the body mutilating the body part, mutilating the body, trying to get rid of the body. I've heard lots of stories of that and you know it started off that he was in the river and then it went that he was on the property and he got the seven acres there and you got to think that they know everybody around them and there's a lot of woods right there down at the river and it gets tough down there.
Sandy Sterner:I even heard at one time I guess I better not give any names, but it gets tough down there. I even heard at one time I guess I better not give any names but took him and they butchered him like a deer and then threw the parts in a barrel and put holes in the barrel and dumped him over the side. When you hear stuff like that, you're going. Why are you coming and telling me this? What do you think detectives are for? Why do you think we have our officers and God bless them. They're trying to do their job and they're trying so hard and everybody just keeps knocking them and instead of saying thank you for your service, sir.
David Lyons:When people make stuff up, the cops have to go through all of that, and that just makes it harder and it adds time and it complicates everything if you get close on it. Is that? That's the cruel part of it, and I've always wondered, because a lot of people just sort of make that up, they think, and then they.
David Lyons:I guess it makes them feel like they're somebody, but man, it complicates this whole process in a big way it complicates it, not to mention the first problem is the pain it causes to be a grandmother or an uncle or a father to hear stories that graphic and again you kind of want to meet the people that make that up and people were going, everybody.
Sandy Sterner:He could be at my house mowing my lawn and 15 people just keep showing up wanting to know what was going on, wanting to know what. And Terrence would say I don't know anything.
David Lyons:Yeah, I would stick with that. Asking questions Because.
Terrance Sterner:I do want to know, so I just sit back and listen.
David Lyons:And who knows why they're asking. I mean, somebody might be running in there, maybe to see what you know, If you know the truth.
Wendy Lyons:they're checking what you know.
Sandy Sterner:Tim was a big boy, it would have taken a lot of people, and I've even heard up to six of them.
Terrance Sterner:He's a pretty hefty boy.
Sandy Sterner:I mean, yeah, but when you take the air from somebody's breath, oh yeah, and that was another story. They got him into the car when he was trying to get away and they had a bag over his head and smothered him.
Terrance Sterner:That's the last story we heard that's the story, I've heard that story in that they burned him and then they buried him because they couldn't burn the body, because it stunk so bad.
Sandy Sterner:Yeah, but then there was the other stories. Well, they buried him in the house Under the house, yeah, under the house, under that porch, and then they put on a new floor, but then he got to stinking so they couldn't stand the smell, so they unburied him and put cement on him and then replaced the floor, and that's what's so hard to hear.
Terrance Sterner:And you hear them things and I'm thinking, well, who went to Home Depot or Lowe's and got this stuff to do this? And it's not true, because that's not what happened.
David Lyons:Yeah, it's just hard to hear, it's hard to say, isn't it?
Wendy Lyons:It's hard to say so you think little Timmy went down there under the pretense that these are his friends, right?
Sandy Sterner:He just went to reconnect with people he was going to reconnect with somebody.
Sandy Sterner:No, no, that girl had him. She was the one that was the one to bring him to these guys, so she invited him to the place. First they said yeah, first they said he was nothing but a rat. But then there was this one girl that liked Timmy, that the other boy was jealous of. But they kept saying he's a rat and then it was jealousy. So it's hard telling, because Timmy, I mean, he was the one that was in jail. For what? Eight years.
Wendy Lyons:Because he was 27.
Sandy Sterner:So he invited him down there. Oh, he was, he just didn't show up. He was conned to 27 down there he was. Oh he was, he was just didn't show up, he was conned to get down there.
Sandy Sterner:That girl got him down there for these guys and that is relatives too, because I'd even text him on that day and I said you know we'll have a talk, you know, this week sometime. And he said, as soon as I get all this stuff done, grandma, because he was supposed to go see his probation officer and all that that day and that's why they, they were trying to get you to hurry up, to get to get down there to see him.
David Lyons:You talked about having that feeling a week before and, uh, when. So he goes missing and and whatnot. Um, was there a point where y'all had a feeling like that, that that he was no longer alive? Because I think that's where we're looking. Is that you're looking at this?
Terrance Sterner:things. When I come out that first day it was raining real hard and it was just dreary day and I was soaking away and I come out of that holler and he wasn't down there and nobody was giving me the right. Like I said earlier, abc did nothing, didn't you know nothing went, everybody's saying different stuff and something gave me that feeling that he was gone. I didn't know where, what or how yet, but the net, you know, and I yeah, and you know, and I yeah. And then I go out here in town and stuff like that. I don't know if I might be in Kroger. Somebody wants to stick me with a daggone knife in the back because I go hunting for whoever did that to me. It ain't like that, I just want the closure with his body, you know, and stuff like that. But you know, everybody has a price to pay for their own, sure, but you know everybody has a price to pay for their own.
David Lyons:Sure, this is not a big town. And then when you get down to the holler and you get by the river it gets even tighter.
Terrance Sterner:Yeah, it's very small, I live on it.
Sandy Sterner:Personally, I thought, as soon as I knew that they was, they all were saying that he was missing from another place, and we knew where he was at at the time. So there was light. I thought this is a big. And we knew where he was at at the time. So there was light. I thought this is a big conspiracy. I don't know who's telling who what or what, or who's listening, because it's all with them. They're big drug dealers too, and so it seems everybody that gets their drugs from them were protecting them. It seems everybody that gets their drugs from them were protecting them, and then they would do all that stuff. And so I'm going wow, just let the officers do it.
David Lyons:Yeah, there's so many possibilities as to why, right I mean, I'm just sitting there listening to you all that there's.
Sandy Sterner:Well, he was in jail for eight years. He wasn't a rat. And there were people brought up and I'm saying, oh my goodness, and I live on the river. And that week when I felt that air go out, that's what my mother told me. When they were rafting down the Colorado River and the raft tipped over, she said, oh, what an easy, easy death I could have, you know. She said it was so peaceful and yet she got pulled out of it, thank gosh. But that's what it reminded me of was what my mother told me how easy it is to die until all of a sudden the water comes in and that's whew. Well, it was like a roller coaster it goes and it comes out and you're gone.
Terrance Sterner:First rumor I heard about little Timmy going in the river. That was the first rumor I heard. I mean, I don't know. But then it I mean I had people come into me. I had some people who wanted to stay close to me, people that don't stay close to me and I let them get close to me so I could try to find something out. They're just as smart as I am and it makes you just, you really got to watch yourself out here, because the people that don't, they have nothing to do with you for 20 years and all of a sudden they're popping in your life and then you know, you put them down on the dartboard and see what comes about it. And the next day you spin the wheel, see what happens. That day, you know, and then spin does.
Terrance Sterner:I put myself in some pretty dangerous positions. I warned him too. I just want to find him. I want him brought home and I don't care about the justice or anything, I just want him brought home for the family. I want that closure for the family, because the family is really hurting. And yeah, it took a sterner. Okay, sure it ain't the first one, it won't be the last one, but it's the first one for us. Horrible place to be it is, and you don't think about it when you see it on TV as much as until it happens to you and you're having such a good day and somebody comes along and says, oh, you know, and just your whole day's like eh.
David Lyons:I think that's the thing, too, is that people see it on TV.
Terrance Sterner:I think one reason we wanted to sit down with you all is that when you see it on the news, if it makes the news yeah, is uh eventually people just feel like numbers and statistics and timmy's more than the number in a statistic exactly, and that's the way I've kind of felt here in the last few weeks, that he's just another statistic, statistics. Uh, now, I'm sorry, but uh, he isn't. And I see that with the bumper stickers and things like that, somebody told me they've seen them in Versailles, they've seen them in Georgetown. So we've had them bumper stickers. Don't forget, little Timmy made Well, ellen, she did that for us and we've got them out there. I see them on vehicles almost every day.
Terrance Sterner:I saw it on hers yesterday and if you look around hard enough for the bumper stickers, they're out there. They got them on the sides of their trucks. My buddies put them on the sides of their trucks and stuff and I know a lot of people and you know them bumper stickers. We got to get some more made.
David Lyons:Yeah, for sure, and what they say again, don't forget about Little. Timmy Don't forget Little Timmy. Don't forget Little Timmy Gotcha.
Wendy Lyons:You know we've recorded, and those two other families they want that same thing. I mean, obviously they want justice but they want their loved one back so they can have that closure. And these two mothers that we have recorded they struggle with that. They just want answers. And it's really sad hearing the story because, you're right, david, it's on the news and you just think, really you just hear it and't until I was sitting in the seat being interviewed by you on the domestic violence murder of my best friend, that you think you're in that hot seat and you realize that that's real emotion that people have. And so our hope, by doing this and interviewing people, is that not only you all get little Timmy back, but that someone pays for what they've done. And somebody out there probably more than one person knows the story and it's almost like you want to say you were big enough and bad enough to do it. So where's the big and bad to come forward and tell what you did? Nobody's ever big enough for that.
Terrance Sterner:I get that too. I get that in the public people because I'm like why won't they come to me? Why won't they? You know, people know me and I mean I could have probably run for jailer here and been jailer. That's how many people I know and they like me. We live on the corner and mom tell you, if I pull up out front, 15 people with me. You know there's parents around, there's parents. You know, just pull up, hey, out there, it's how you doing.
Sandy Sterner:You know it's just on a given and uh, just that the whole thing is crazy to me, that yeah, if you go to a store, you might as well figure out another 15 to a half an hour because he's going to be talking.
David Lyons:Yeah plus, but he comes down again.
Terrance Sterner:This is a pretty tight-knit community, which I, which is I'm attracted to, why I love, I love working here she said something about justice and, uh, you know, I've I've grown my mom's me well to believe that you will get your justice when you die, how you die and everything that's. You know how it goes. But you will get justice. And it ain't me that's going to give you justice, it ain't the judges that ain't going to give you justice, it's the man upstairs that's going to give you justice. And the biggest thing is you're going to give your own justice because you've got to live with that every day. That's going to be, that's going to be your hell right there right and you know we can add to that.
David Lyons:Uh, and I've said it before, I'll keep saying it that if somebody has firsthand knowledge of what happened, even if they weren't immediately involved, they carry that weight of that justice as well for not for coming, and that's what bothers me. But I've met people who can do it. But if they're holding that in their heart and are carrying it on their shoulders, you can walk into church every Sunday and Wednesday night and think you're grazed and everything. But that justice will fall on you for holding that and causing the pain that it does inside of a family. It falls on your family too.
Terrance Sterner:When you do yes, it does, causing the pain that it does inside of a family falls on your family too. When you do yes, it does, like I said earlier, the ripple effect I really believe what I do falls and it. You know, I'm 51 years old. It took me 51 years to realize it. Kind of something like that get mature or something, is that what you call them. Mom grow up but it's took me a while to understand that ripple effect. And then when I go to do something now I think of the ripple effect. You know okay, who's it going to affect Me? I don't know. When I cut that tree down, it's going to affect all the neighborhood. That is part of it, and you know the other cases that Wendy's mentioning.
David Lyons:I think that what compounds the frustration is that, um and this is not uncommon you have uh, last locations and last person seen with which is a strong solvability thing, but it doesn't mean you're there, you're right.
David Lyons:it's like what's it take to get people to just talk and and I think that's the frustrating part, because people know and they're, they're walking among us and it's that whole thing of why are you holding on to that? And and again, if they didn't witness it, they've been told by people that are reliable and not these rumors you've heard either.
Terrance Sterner:It'll be the real thing. Yeah Well, I've had some people that has come to me about Little Timmy and you can see it in their eyes. They really want to tell me something.
Sandy Sterner:They're afraid.
Terrance Sterner:They're afraid to tell me something or they're afraid of what I'll do or what the Justice Department will do. It's not what I'm going to do. I'm not going to do nothing. And I've been in places and they're looking at me Like they could do to me what they could do to little Timmy, and it gets hairy.
David Lyons:It is. They can tip anonymously To get the ball rolling, yeah, but even then at some point, I think what people need to do is to show some empathy and put themselves in your shoes on what they would want. God forbid they were in that position.
Terrance Sterner:That's a big word, david.
David Lyons:It is, it is I know, but the thing is that at some point, when you live this life and you walk among other people, you have an obligation to get courage and to come forward and participate Absolutely and help the other person out, and I'm a firm believer in that.
Terrance Sterner:As moms, I'm always like the neighbors need their yard mowed. Might not be my mower, might be on mom's tractor I'm on the whole neighborhood. And she's like well, you quit mowing the neighborhood with my mower.
David Lyons:Empathy, mom, empathy, I love it. I love it, but a bit the same way.
Sandy Sterner:I think that there's, it's my guess yeah, exactly, there we go, exactly.
David Lyons:Common sense People. I've always said I get that it's scary and sometimes it is, but most of the time I found when I would hear that it really wasn't valid, it was the excuse. But then again, let's think about it. If we're human beings and we walk amongst each other, sometimes you have to do scary things and sometimes you. What people don't understand in a case like Timmy's is that people would just come forward with a deep breath and go woof and get it out. There is. If people would just come forward with a deep breath and go woof and get it out there, the scary people would be away. I mean, it would be that quick.
Sandy Sterner:It wouldn't take long. But drugs do so much. Oh sure, drugs do so much and the way it is, that's the biggest, baddest thing of all. Is all these drugs that they're on the love of money?
Terrance Sterner:and drugs.
Sandy Sterner:And it's just like I don't understand why this Suboxone Clinic, because I remember taking Tim little Timmy to counseling and I got to go that time and he wasn't on any drug medication, he was on for ADHD.
Terrance Sterner:ADHD yeah.
Sandy Sterner:And she said well, we could put you in a Suboxone. He said why would I be taking one drug and then you all want to give me another drug and make it just as bad? And I'm going wow, I heard that out of my grandson's mouth. I was never so proud of him. I said, boy, we got in that car and we had another long talk. I said I'm so proud of you for saying that Because my twin told me one time. I said I don't think I'm reaching him and she said oh, just keep talking. She said you'll never know when something's going to snap in that little boy's head and he'll hear you and it'll be the right thing.
Terrance Sterner:Anytime he would run to Grandma's house, no matter what. He knew he was safe there, yeah.
Sandy Sterner:And always talk about. Do unto others as you would. Please don't listen to the ones that are doing you bad. Oh, excuse me. Anyway, this is the last letter he wrote me.
Terrance Sterner:Oh, mom, you're going to make me cry.
Sandy Sterner:This is the last letter he wrote me oh, mom, you're going to make me cry. This is tough, but this will show you what he was thinking in mindset before. Yeah.
Wendy Lyons:And when was this written?
Terrance Sterner:What is it October? Around Dad's birthday, wasn't it? No?
Sandy Sterner:Or his dad's birthday, that's what the thing says, but anyway, this is the last one I got. So he said well, and it's hard to understand his writing, but well, I haven't wrote you in a while, thought I would. Well, all is good. I was getting real sturt out in. Oh, she's getting out in one month. Dang.
Sandy Sterner:I've been doing time since I was 12 years old. All together I've done about 14 years, 9.5050 in prison. That is real sad and I'm almost 30 years old, got none to show for it. Crazy Been doing the wrong shit, but everyone can change. You just got to want to. It hurts me.
Sandy Sterner:We are not as close as we used to be, but I know every now and then, your smile and think about old times and the stuff we used to talk about. I sit and think about you all the time but I can't change the past, which I wish I could. But, grandma, I'm not ashamed of who I am, just what I've done. Grandma, I've been a hell of a man. You it right by me. Prison that made me, but prison has helped me. Prison that made me, but prison has helped me. It helped me develop a sense in calmness and needed when I was in the street. I was hell on wheels, but I got it all out. I'm good. But I love you, grandma, really, really. Do you know it? True, I miss you, so I wrote, so needed it to, but just know I'm present every visit in mourning. Oh, let my roots and all my Sterner's family know I love them. Write me back, love you.
David Lyons:Love Timmy Jr and somebody robbed him of the opportunity to keep growing his life and changing it. I think that's what kills me about that is that you know it sounds like he was. He was maybe, like you said, terrence, we grow up.
Sandy Sterner:Yeah, he was growing up, yeah and um well, the thing that was, and then I was. And then his dad feels so bad because he could have taken Timmy in but him and we knew that he had to get acclimated from prison to the outside.
David Lyons:Sure.
Sandy Sterner:And that was very important.
Terrance Sterner:You've got to take your time and really look at the whole situation before you jump into it. I learned that horribly.
Sandy Sterner:And basically what little? Timmy's saying there's no blame on anybody. He takes that blame on himself and said you know he's going to be all right, but when you come out of prison that long you have to have help.
David Lyons:Seven or eight years is a long time to be alive.
Sandy Sterner:Yes, and you have to get acclimated to the outside Jordan his cousin.
Terrance Sterner:He went from.
Sandy Sterner:That's where we wanted him to go.
Terrance Sterner:Yeah, we wanted him to go down to E-Town and be with him and let him acclimate him back in to a halfway house and stuff like that. I know things just went too fast for him. I guess it's like getting on a bicycle and going so fast your first ride and getting the wobbles and breaking. You know that's a good analogy, yeah.
David Lyons:That makes a lot of sense.
Terrance Sterner:Things were going so fast for him, he just didn't have time to keep up. I don't know. I really do feel there'd be justice from this. I do Something tells me there will be, but, like I say, we just want closure. I would love just somebody to say his body's right there, you can go dig it up. All right, see you later. I'll dig the body up, just to have him, just to have the closure, that's what we're praying for with y'all.
Terrance Sterner:I got to take myself out of situations because sometimes, golly him and Josh, josh, when we pulled up to a house I was working on the other day, timmy had done something there and my son just started crying and I went to shut the door and I seen he was crying. I opened the door and said you know me, I'm his dad. What's wrong with you? He said Timmy, and he started telling me his story. I said, buddy, you're gonna have to grow out of that. You better get thinking about work and get that paint brush and get your butt now. And uh, he's like okay, so he's drying his eyes, he pulls himself together.
Terrance Sterner:But yeah, it really it takes a toll on him. It really does. It takes a toll on them. It really does. It takes a toll on the whole family and I feel sorry for my kids because little Timmy loved them. I mean you should have seen them play Like Mom's got video and it's just yeah, they were side-by-side all the time and nobody messed with them. They never really messed with nobody else either. They just had their own fun and I think you know, a lot of times there was people jealous of them because they did have things they wanted the motorcycle or the nice clothes, you know the good shoes and the nice pants and stuff like that. Now don't get me wrong. I wasn't raised that way. I had buddies in Highwaters on going to kindergarten with my pants pulled up around my boobies.
Sandy Sterner:Plaid.
David Lyons:Yeah, plaid, I'm corduroy Corduroy.
Wendy Lyons:Yeah.
Terrance Sterner:And I think my cousin in New York owned them there we go.
Terrance Sterner:But Mom made sure little Timmy wanted something because it was a fashion in school. She would go get that for him and you know he'd come in from school and she's like look what, I got you this shirt, you know, and it matched little timmy. He liked it and he loved that stuff. And you'll learn from people I'm gonna have some other people get ahold, some other people which y'all learned that how wonderful little timmy really was. He would my ex-wife. She screamed little tim, would you please rub my feet? And she would have to ask twice. He would be right in there. Bam, that's how little he was. I asked him once.
Terrance Sterner:I forgot about this. I said he was on three-wheeler with me and we was going up down the creek behind Mom's house and I seen something in the bank. The water's been rushing real hard the week before so it washed some of the bankway and I, little timmy, is on, I think he was on the back with me and, uh, I seen it and I stopped and I'm looking at it and he's like what is it? I said you see a white thing in the bank right there. I said get it, little timmy. Timmy says he's. He probably went about five years old. He said I'll get'll get wet. I said I don't care, get off and get it. So he thought he was going to get in trouble by grandma for getting wet. He gets off and gets it. He gets back on the three-wheeler. I take this mortar shell, the whole mortar, and strap it to the front of my.
Terrance Sterner:That's what it was, oh wow, little Timmy's walking through the creek with it like this, still the cap sticking out of it and everything. And so we get it out of there, you know, strapped to the front three-wheeler, and we pull you right up and down the creek. I take it in and take hot water and soap and scrub all the paint off of it, or the dirt, you know, so you can see the clean paint, set it up in my window sill and I got a trophy now and I set it up in my windowsill and I got a trophy now and it was a little Timmy's trophy actually. But here comes Grandma over one day and I was sitting on the counter because I'd cleaned the windowsill off. She's, what is that? That's a mortar. Mom, ain't you ever seen a mortar? She's like you can't have that in here. Next thing I know, here comes Frank with a bomb squad up in my house they're clearing the whole corner.
Terrance Sterner:Here comes little timmy. Where's that mortar at you?
Sandy Sterner:talk to your grandma about that, yeah, and that that guy officer told us to leave the house, evacuate my husband said I'm not leaving yeah, that's it, I'm sitting right here If it goes off.
David Lyons:he said it's been over six months I ain't moving.
Sandy Sterner:The officer goes outside and sits in his car out there far away. Yeah.
Terrance Sterner:He wouldn't even touch it here comes the bomb squad, and I'm walking right up to it like you got to think by now I've got five kids plus little Timmy and all the neighborhood kids running around, and mom comes in and she's just like and then here, clear the street, so dad wasn't going to leave, so I wasn't going to leave. And so here's my ex-wife standing down in the corner with all the kids around her Y'all kids. Be good, that's an incredible story. So I asked him. I said so, when you're done with that, can I have it back? He said if you want to pick it up in little pieces, oh yeah, because it would be an Easter egg.
David Lyons:Yeah, he said.
Terrance Sterner:I must put a C4 on the side of it and blow it up. He said do you know that thing? Was it World War II? World War II. It kind of dropped down in that sort of thing.
Sandy Sterner:Well, they fattened it up.
Terrance Sterner:It has a little cap on top of it. It sticks about that far when that cap comes down because it's top heavy, Like it fell off my counter until it would go boom.
David Lyons:Yeah, that would be a problem.
Terrance Sterner:That's what she said, but I didn't say no problem, too good, too good. Yeah, but he took that from me and little Timmy. That's the only thing little Timmy's find a mortar shell.
David Lyons:What we could have done with that you all certainly brought the memories today yeah, I think you're painting a really good picture of who Timmy is, timmy's we want to thank you for allowing us to come.
Sandy Sterner:You've been a blessing.
Terrance Sterner:Well, and thanks for sharing that letter If Timmy could have screamed my name out loud enough, I'd have been there.
David Lyons:That letter is a gift. It's his words.
Terrance Sterner:It's his hands, and in this, modern age how often do we not?
David Lyons:have that.
Terrance Sterner:It'll always be there, I see little Timmy sitting there writing that letter, I see his mind going, I see his posture, and that's what hurts me the most.
Sandy Sterner:And I see him, I see the love that he put into it, because that boy didn't know how to love.
Terrance Sterner:Yeah, he did. He knew how to love.
Wendy Lyons:Well, thank you to love. Well, thank you, sandy, and thank you, terrence, for coming and sharing with us the memory of Timmy, who he is again. I'll repeat somebody out there knows something and our hope is that we can find you all answers. Hey, you know there's more to the story, so go download the next episode, like the true crime fan that you are.
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