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The Lexington Triple Homicide: Who Really Pulled the Trigger? | Part 1 of 3
A routine death call transforms into a detective's worst nightmare when one body becomes three in a matter of hours. When Frank Reschke is found murdered in his recliner, detectives quickly realize they're missing two crucial elements - the victim's car and his stepson, Ricky Sherroan.
What follows is a masterclass in homicide investigation as detectives balance gathering evidence from the initial crime scene while tracking down a suspect who seems to have vanished. When a worried father arrives looking for his son who was friends with the missing stepson, the case takes a devastating turn. "We've got two more over here," comes the chilling call that changes everything.
The investigation spans from Lexington to Shively to Louisville in Kentucky as detectives work through the night, processing multiple crime scenes, interviewing witnesses, and coordinating with other jurisdictions - all while a mother endures the unimaginable reality of losing her husband and facing the possibility her son was responsible. The case raises profound questions about family trauma, evidence collection across multiple scenes, and how detectives maintain focus when working "on fumes."
This riveting account delivers exceptional insight into the real workings of a major homicide investigation - from the crucial role coroners play in Kentucky (where they legally "own" the body and even have arrest powers) to the tactical decisions about search warrants and evidence processing that can make or break a case. Follow along as investigators unravel what really happened on April 20, 1999, and discover why Ricky Sherroan would ultimately be convicted of two murders but not three.
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So that's kind of odd, kind of odd. And so a couple of investigators and patrol people went over there and I get a call on my cell phone and it's Paul Williams and Paul's done a show with us and I'll never forget that. You know we're getting ready to get into the evening. We're still going to be working this for quite some time. At the same time it's the end of the day and you're starting to go on fumes a little bit and I remember Paul said Davey, he goes, we've got two more over here.
David Lyons:And I said two more what? And he goes two more bodies.
Wendy Lyons:Warning the podcast you're about to listen to may contain graphic descriptions of violent assaults, murder and adult language. Listener discretion is advised. The Lexington Triple Homicide who really pulled the trigger? Part 1 of 3. Thank you for joining us as we discuss the triple murder committed by Ricky Cherone April 20th 1999. I have with us David, as usual, exactly.
David Lyons:Thanks for being here, david. Yeah, it's kind of one of those uncomfortable ones. We're going to talk about one of them that I worked myself and I was always. They're weird. I know we've done a couple before, but we've got a fantastic guest to have walk us through the questions and stuff like that. But it's an interesting case. I think people find it interesting.
Wendy Lyons:Well, we indeed do have a really interesting guest, and I say interesting because he is a spider master for real. This is James. James, thank you so much for being here with us tonight.
James York:Hey, thanks for having me here. It's great to be here.
Wendy Lyons:James, I have to have you tell our listeners. You have your own podcast. Why don't you tell us a little bit about that? I mean, we know, but why don't you tell the listeners about it?
James York:Sure, I'd be happy to. Yeah, it's called the 13th Floor 1-3-T-H podcast, and just look for the red, black and white logo. We talk about spooky, paranormal, creepy, occult, conspiracy-type stuff, and we do so pretty clean and with a more comedic angle, and my hosts, alex and Ce and CC, are always with me, and at the time of this recording it's actually CC's birthday, so happy birthday.
Wendy Lyons:Happy birthday.
David Lyons:CC yeah, happy birthday.
Wendy Lyons:Well, you have to tell, because I'm always so intrigued. Give us a snippet of your spider infatuation.
James York:Uh, funny enough, I actually just bought a new one who hasn't come in the mail yet. And yes, they do come in the mail, and our listeners are actually encouraged to go on Instagram 13th Floor Podcast at Instagram and vote on what their name will be. They are a sun tiger, so black and orange. But yeah, I got 10 other tarantulas and I'm obsessed with bugs. It's crazy.
Wendy Lyons:Now, are these going to be babies, or are these full grown ones? This one's?
James York:going to be about an inch. So a baby, so a baby. Yeah, now are these going to be babies, or are these full grown ones?
Wendy Lyons:This one's going to be about an inch, so a baby so a baby yeah. Now, are these as poisonous as some of the others that you've told me you have?
James York:This one's in between, which is rare. Usually the new worlds, it's like a bee sting and then the old worlds. It's like you go to the ER. This one's in the middle, which is very rare. It's a too bad, but it's worse than your typical New World. The upside is they don't have the urticating hairs that cause like contact dermatitis like most New Worlds.
Wendy Lyons:I think that you should give it like a really sweet name, like you know, coco or Fluffy or something Funny enough so far they're all just about named after beverages, so I'm probably going to try to keep with that trend with the poll on Instagram. What kind of beverage?
James York:Let's see. Oh, that's a good question because, yes, she's going to be black and orange. Your other beverages, oh the other ones, julius, after Orange, julius, pumpkin, pumpkin, spice latte, noir, pinot noir, cider, oolong and puer, which are teas, chai, indian spice tea because she's from India, and so forth.
Wendy Lyons:Well, how interesting.
David Lyons:I did because I told you I was going to do this. But I did tell you that one day that he was going on vacation and I said that you would, while I'm out of town, that he could bring his creatures over and you would sit them.
Wendy Lyons:There's no way. Yeah, I didn't think so. There is no way. I don't even know what they eat, besides people.
David Lyons:Well, they talk about it on the 13th floor, but I have to pitch it and say it because that's how we met is through the podcast world, and I'm an avid fan, thank you. And on our website, if anybody ever goes to it, I have a handful of select podcast rep that speak to me, and 13th floor has been on there for a couple of years now, really appreciate that when you listen to the 13th Floor, I think what I like is I've said before is that you'll laugh but you'll learn so much.
David Lyons:Because the whole premise is you all choose a topic and then sometimes the audience chooses a topic yeah. And then you all do some research and Alex and and Cece and you take turns stabbing at this thing and it's one of my go-tos, you know that, and so one I'm glad we can turn our listeners onto it. If our listeners like our stuff, you'll love the 13th floor for sure. And then to get to work with you on a cross promo come on in and help us out with a pretty interesting case in the true crime world, so welcome aboard.
Wendy Lyons:Glad to be here. Well, this is your case. There's several. I've asked you to do One I really want you to do. You still won't. But we have Ricky Cherone here that we're talking about tonight. He committed three murders on. April 20th, and you, I guess, were the lead investigator.
David Lyons:The lead. But you know, like we always talk about too, is that you lead only because it's your turn in the barrel, but the anything that comes out of a unit like that is the effort of a lot of people and a lot of people inside the agency or not. So, lead, yeah, you pick them up because it's your we've talked about the rotation before and you get them and, uh, sometimes you might spend more time on the stand maybe, um, but uh, yeah, that I was.
Wendy Lyons:I was up that day that I was, so what were you doing when they called you?
David Lyons:Well, actually I was at work because it was it was during the week, you know it. Um. So we were at work and got a phone call of a decedent found off of Reading Road on Bellmead. I believe it was in Lexington In.
James York:Lexington.
David Lyons:Yeah, and to set this up too, this is April, the 20th 1999, also known as 420 Day, which kind of plays a role in this a little bit. But so it's like anything else you get the call to go to where this decedent or this person has been found dead. I want to back up a little bit about why this one might be kind of interesting to people because the dynamics were interesting. We'll learn how it was. Like raking leaves on a windy day, you're already busy and then you learn you've got other dead people. And those come into my situation because I'm still it and we'll talk more about how that happens. So we'll talk about that, the idea that that's a really rare thing that you get three like that, especially in a fantastic city like Lexington, kentucky. But the other dynamic we'll hear too is that the suspect Ricky which, by the way, we had charged him with three and went to trial and he was found guilty of two out of the three. And we'll talk a little bit about what that might have meant and what some of the prosecution and defense theories could have been on that we still were adamant. That's why we did that. We had a good, strong prosecution theory on it. But what we're about to learn in a little bit is that Ricky's mother was in a horrible situation through this thing and I'll describe how that is. And it's one of those things I think about to this year how the family has dealt with more tragedy than they should have in any kind of case like this. So I wanted to set that back a little bit to that. So it's like anything else we roll up and you've got patrol at the scene and they've been in the house and they give you usually what happens. Somebody from patrol they secure the scene. They'll give you a rundown of what they saw in there. And I think we've talked about before that sometimes we go in and sometimes we don't. It's not like TV Sometimes we go in and sometimes we don't. It's not like TV.
David Lyons:In this case I didn't go in until after the victim, frank Reschke, who is, I believe, in his 60s, I believe, was removed from there. We're real big on not contaminating that scene, so it's what we rely on the statements and things that the people are ideal, come out, went into it later, you know when we had it done. But what we learned is that Ricky had a sister that was still in school and she got home from school and found that the house was locked up and couldn't get in and she waited for her mother to get home. And her mother managed to get in the house and found her husband, frank Reschke, in a recliner and he was obviously morally wounded and dead. It ends up he'd been shot multiple times and so she finds him in a recliner and of course they call the police and that initiates all of this, where patrol shows up and then they call us, they call the coroner and it rolls.
David Lyons:Patrol shows up and then they call us, they call the coroner and it rolls. Um, what's that look like? When you're there is, um, uh, that we call the crime lab out. It's a big truck that has some equipment and they're doing a lot of testing and it's equipped for that, but it's mainly where you can huddle and everything. We get more investigators in the scene, patrols out doing what you've heard about on this show a million times before called the neighborhood investigation, going door to door, did you see? Or anything like that, because it's obviously a super suspicious death. The coroner's called. Their staff comes out. They actually take control and possession of the body. I don't know. We've talked a little bit about when we interviewed a coroner here. But in Kentucky the coroner quote-unquote owns the body and responsible for yeah, it's kind of surreal, it is.
David Lyons:yeah, it sounds weird, doesn't it? Uh? But I always like to break that down a little bit, because it's a crime scene and we are going to investigate it, but they're actually charged with the responsibility of the death investigation. So in kentucky isn't that neat it's, people don't know that, and so what that is is, there's usually a strong relationship between a coroner's office and a police department because of the equipment and the expertise that's shared between the two. So, for example, we were not allowed to go in and move anybody or take anybody and move the body or anything like that till they're done. But it's actually again a teamwork effort.
James York:You know that expertise comes from both sides on that, that really emphasizes the importance of the fact that coroners are elected. So yeah, don't vote for anybody you wouldn't trust with a body.
David Lyons:Yeah, exactly, and you know we've talked, we've interviewed the Jessamine County coroner. Here was a fantastic and one of his fantastic deputy coroners oh, his deputy is Cassie.
Wendy Lyons:Cassie, yeah, exactly yeah, she's phenomenal.
David Lyons:And it was neat. We learned a lot in that too, in that whole thing. But yeah, that's their scene, the immediacy, the bodies they're seeing, and a lot of people don't get that, but it works because they're educated, because they're educated way back in the day in Kentucky to be a coroner, you're elected and you don't have to have a medical degree or anything like that and, ironically enough, a long time ago, you know a lot of coroners happened to be funeral directors, which always makes you. Could there be a conflict of interest?
David Lyons:You know, maybe I don't think that happened.
James York:It sounds like a musical or something.
David Lyons:Yes, exactly Like you know. Wait a few more minutes, or I'm sorry that your husband's deceased. Here's a card. You know it. I don't know how that went, but in Kentucky I'll speed it up a little bit they're all exceptionally trained through this and they can arrest Pardon me and they can arrest. They can arrest. Yeah, that's a small piece.
Wendy Lyons:You don't see that a lot. I didn't realize that. Yeah, me neither.
David Lyons:They're peace officers, but you probably won't see that a whole lot.
Wendy Lyons:No, but they can.
David Lyons:It emphasizes the legal authority they have over that scene. That's why that's in there. So getting back to it is to set that up. What that looks like is you've got a house that's not contained. It's got crime scene tape. It's got an officer at the door with a log who's going to write down who goes in and what time they go in and what time they go out.
David Lyons:We always joke that's how you keep the bosses out, you know, because we don't want people traipsing through and so if you go on that list you might wind up in court and it keeps people out. But we don't. We want to reduce any chance of contaminating that. The forensics pulls up. They've got the big crime lab and we're on hold. What we're on hold for is a warrant. There's a little bit of a pause in all of that because in theory you could get permission from the homeowner, from Mrs Reschke, to consent voluntarily that you can process a house and that would probably stand up most all the time. But in a death investigation we always we call it paper, you get an affidavit and you go to a judge because that way, if anything changes, you have that probable cause that's been approved by a judge through that search warrant.
Wendy Lyons:That's what a lot of people don't know.
David Lyons:Interesting, but that's time you have to make it and you have to find a judge. Usually, if they're not in chambers, they'll have them on call. I've been to judge's house at 3.30 in the morning. I've had a warrant signed at Rupp Arena at a circus standing next to a popcorn machine. Another one I remember I met with a judge down at A1A in downtown and he was playing volleyball. So he steps off the sand for a minute and I put my hand up and people are like what is that? And you do it. So it's wherever you find them.
David Lyons:But what I'm getting at is that there's a pause. The house got looked at very quickly. When you have something like that, you do have the ability to make a sweep of the house and what that's based on is that the police can go in to make sure the house is safe, to make a sweep of the house, and what that's based on is that the police can go in to make sure the house is safe, to make sure there's no other victims of a crime and that we don't have somebody hiding that would jump out when they start processing the house. But it's limited to that.
David Lyons:If you see anything. There's the serendipity you can add it to a search warrant affidavit. But you can't, for example, to do that, I can't go in, or nobody can go in and start opening drawers and things, because most people can't hide in a drawer. As short as I am, I still couldn't get in a drawer, unless it was a really large drawer.
Wendy Lyons:I'd maybe try to stick you in one. Yeah, we've got a couple hot things.
David Lyons:Exactly. So that's what it looks like. Is you've got all that? So it looks like it's kind of on a freeze thing and we're all waiting for the the paper. Um, now, what happened? That was interesting in that too, is that, um, in speaking to mrs reschke, this is, this is where, uh, you, you start to read things a little bit, is, uh, we learned that she has a son, which would be frank's stepson, uh named uh ricky chiron, or richard chiron, um, pat hold was he, I'd have to look back, probably his early 20s.
David Lyons:Yeah, he named Ricky Chiron or Richard Chiron. How old was he? I'd have to look back probably his early 20s. Yeah, late teens, early 20s. He was just turning into a young man and when you're talking to her, I think most of us started to sense that intuition-wise. And the way she was is that something was really heavy on her mind and the idea that he's not home, frank's car is gone, and we learned later that there had been some friction between the two in that relationship a little bit, and this is what I've talked about her being in a tight place is that we didn't overly focus on him right away.
David Lyons:but it was pretty clear that we had to locate Ricky. Ricky, he's got to be in or out so fast. It's not funny. When I'm in or out he's either part of the investigation or he's a witness and the car is gone and that takes her off guard a little bit. So the effort turns on that she doesn't know where she's at. She's super cooperative, just super cooperative. And so at first we issue an ATL attempt to locate. Let's see if we can find the car, get to Ricky and have a talk with him and see what he saw or didn't see. As it progressed on with that and we weren't locating him, she assisted us by reporting that car stolen.
David Lyons:And this is what I talked about, where it's difficult for somebody because that gave us a little more flex as far as NCIC goes on containing that car and making a stop of that car and whatnot. Yeah, it's difficult because I think there was a feeling that he might be involved. And here's a mother who's again doing what she can to help us out. She's just lost her husband and there's probably some suspicion in her mind too that her son might be involved in that. So we end up getting that listed as a stolen car. Getting that listed as a stolen car.
David Lyons:Um, while we're waiting on the, the warrant to get there, sergeant keith miller uh, fantastic patrol sergeant that I worked with for years and he worked that area town he pops into the, into the, into the truck and and uh, starts talking about how he knows ricky and he knows a couple ricky's friends which will come up in a minute. And this is the neat thing about when police know there's a thing we call knowing your beat, like when they really get to work in a geographical area and they deal with people. They know people, and Keith did, sergeant Miller did, and he was talking about he had dealt with Ricky on some really petty crime stuff, stupid chasing I mean nothing major talking about. He had dealt with Ricky on some really petty crime stuff you know stupid chasing, I mean nothing major.
David Lyons:And then a couple of friends he named and everything. I think he had pictures of them. He had pictures of he showed us some jail shots of Ricky and a kid named Aaron Mills and Isaac Davis, all about the same age and everything. So it's like okay, you know, because that's a resource, right, absolutely. We're like okay, because that's a resource, right, absolutely. We're like okay, we're starting to paint a picture here and eventually the warrant comes so FSU can enter, so their team goes in and they start to process the house. At some point when I got in and got things settled and got going is that a couple of us did go in holding got going, is that a couple of us did go in?
David Lyons:And then that's when I got to see the recliner in a reclined position which again you know you're looking at is the reasonable assumption, the way the fire department described seeing him. Is that a good assumption would be? Is that Frank was asleep or resting when he was shot. So, and that's an assumption at that point. But that's that's where we're at. They start processing.
James York:Go ahead, I'm sorry, what kind of rounds were used.
David Lyons:I think I'll look in a minute because I'm going to look at notes. It's funny because it's just like being in trial 38?. Yeah, so revolver rounds A revolver, yeah, okay.
James York:Which is interesting, right? That's actually, yeah, what I asked.
David Lyons:Interesting, yeah, because with a revolver that's different than what a semi-automatic does, right, and the weapon comes in a couple times in this thing. That was kind of interesting too. So we take a peek look, kind of get a feel for it, and I remember being back out on the truck or the lab and we get a little knock on the door and it's a man, probably in his 50s, and he's the father of one of the two boys that Sergeant Miller talked about. I think, if I remember correctly, he might have been Aaron's father, but I could have that backwards. And he says that. He said I saw all the activity down here. I know who lives here and they hang out, and he said he goes. I can't get a hold of my son. And he said he goes. I've been to their apartment. It's right up here on Reading Road, just almost a stone's throw from over on Bellmead, and there's no answer.
David Lyons:But I think he had mentioned that one or two of the cars or something made him think that they're in there but they're not answering. So that's kind of odd, kind of odd. And so a couple of investigators and patrol people went over there and I get a call on my cell phone and it's Paul Williams and Paul's done a show with us and I'll never forget that. You know we're getting ready to get into the evening. We're still going to be working this for quite some time. At the same time it's the end of the day and you're starting to go on fumes a little bit and I remember Paul said Davey, he goes, we've got two more over here.
David Lyons:And I said two more, what? And he goes two more bodies, and that's where what had happened is that they had got up on a balcony thing and access to sliding door and they found the bodies of Aaron. Mills and Isaac Davis.
Wendy Lyons:So the two that they couldn't get in contact with, yeah, which is why, and again.
David Lyons:You know you have to look at it and say that the dad couldn't get in contact with him and suspected. But I'm a big believer in intuition and something.
Wendy Lyons:There was that heaviness when he was talking to him. Now were these two guys just friends with Ricky.
David Lyons:We put that together later and also because of, again, sergeant Miller, keith, talking and knowing that they ran together and it clicked.
David Lyons:So you start to fast-pace all of that a little bit. To fast pace all of that a little bit, and if I have it out of order, that's definitely when we went and got the T-Bet felony auto on the vehicle, because now it was like, okay, everybody's accounted for except Ricky, and now we've got two dead people, and so that's like I said in the beginning. Your first impression is maybe a couple of small expletives like damn, we're about to get really busy, right.
David Lyons:And those collect into mind because right off the bat there's a nexus. We learned later that of course it was a solid nexus. But you call in more of the cavalry. You just get a little bit busier with it because now we've got a second crime scene. A little bit busier with it because now we've got a second crime scene and actually the anything between bellmead and redding got examined pretty hard because anything between those two points to a to b can be part of a crime scene as well um, chronologically, which one took place first that's.
David Lyons:That's where it's. It's. We're going to get into the prosecution theory. We're going to get into the prosecution theory. Um, we have. We. We had an idea based on the physical evidence and stuff like that we'll talk about and some of the circumstantial evidence. Ricky had another idea and you'll learn that in a minute, and we didn't agree with Ricky's idea. He was adamant about it and we'll get there. But we felt our philosophy that we had looked at again, especially when we got with the Commonwealth's attorney, is that Frank was murdered and then the two boys were murdered and we've got a little bit. Like I said, some of the physical evidence made us believe that and some of the circumstances involved believe that. So we're on. I mean, you've got three people. The media starts to take a heightened awareness. As a police department, this is when you start to there's more considerations about what you release, because you've always got that delicate balance of providing information to people and then making sure you don't terrorize a community at the same time.
David Lyons:Three dead people in one town within a couple blocks, the impact on it is pretty good. So those were a lot of the discussions we were having at that time.
Wendy Lyons:So you've got these three dead bodies that you've just discovered within minutes of each other.
David Lyons:Minutes, yeah. A couple hours probably, yeah. So where do you go from?
Wendy Lyons:there, you've got no Ricky yeah. You've got two friends and a stepdad yeah, and no answers.
David Lyons:Yeah, the only thing we, the biggest thing that we're going to look for to get the next set of answers and everything is to locate Ricky Sharon, and again he's considered right. I mean, we're looking at him, but again, we've talked over and over that you don't box in on that.
Wendy Lyons:I mean right, Because it could be that he was with the trio of friends and got kidnapped. That's it. We've done another case, Alex Johnson, that got kidnapped, you know our thing is is that he's interesting.
David Lyons:I don't like the word person of interest, I don't, I've never liked that. But he's interesting. But at the same time we're thinking again that is he hurt? Is is Ricky hurt? I mean, could we have a fourth somewhere? Or has he been hospitalized? Has he found his way because of his association with these people and being in some kind of straight to? But he's definitely the next link. So you continue the neighborhood investigation. Now you do a neighborhood investigation on Reading Road, near the apartments and everything, to see if anybody saw or heard anything. And time starts to pass. We get into the evening and then we get notified that the car has been seen in Shively, which is just like a sixth class city or fourth class city outside of Louisville, kentucky, that some police officers in Shively locate the car in a Royal Inn parking lot in Shively and that might be just truly off Dixie Highway, which is the main route through there if you're familiar with that. Which is interesting, because now we've got that the car is jetted and we've got it out of town in another city.
Wendy Lyons:How did they know to make contact Shively Police?
David Lyons:Well, that's why we had the car entered as stolen.
Wendy Lyons:So it would flag in their systems as well. Yeah, that's it, yeah.
David Lyons:If they get the message of an ATL, if their radio traffic broadcasts the ATL, and that can happen or not, depending on how busy you are. I can't remember if they had heard the bull or not, but at some point they ran that tag and they came back as a stolen vehicle. So we get on the phone with them and, uh, it's in this, this hotel parking lot. And uh, we asked them, can you all set up on it to where you can't be seen? If it moves, stop the car again, because the assumption is that whoever has the car there might be staying at the royal inn makes sense, yeah and uh, so can you surveil it?
David Lyons:Because, boom, we're on our way and that literally is we're like we are going to get to you pretty quick, so we jump, a couple of us jump in the car. We actually had a Commonwealth's attorney assistant with us. Kim Bunnell rode with us into Louisville One of the things that was neat about this team aspect and we've had Ray the DA Larson rest in peace on the show before is that our Commonwealth Attorney's Office would come to these to really give you the guidance.
David Lyons:In some cities you have to run everything through the prosecutor or the DA's office. It was more of a thing that if we make an arrest in a case like this, they will be the one prosecuting it. So we want them in from the hot skinny in the beginning and they were great. So Kim Bonnell went on to be a fantastic judge, still is a judge here in town, rides up there with us. So we're off and we're taking off into the evening and we're heading to Lively Shively, as we called it when I grew up in Louisville. It was called Lively Shively.
David Lyons:Okay, we get there and we pull in and there's the car in the parking lot and some Shively police were there and they parked and looked up on him. But we learned later that Ricky had seen them. So we end up finding out what room somebody had registered in. I still didn't want to even say back then for sure it was Ricky. Somebody had the car and we find out what room and we go to the room and there's no answer and they open the door for us and it's vacant. And so now we've got the car, it's getting later in the evening. This is that thing, you know, like we always talk about with the first 48, why is important, why you just don't call it quits is that every one of these little threads we're starting to pull has to go. Because now we're, we're pretty excited, we've got a vehicle, we've got in a city it's not further away but we still don't have ricky and uh was he registered to the motel with his real name?
James York:I'd have to go back and look. You know, again it's. I can't remember if he was or not.
David Lyons:I believe, believe he might have been. So he sneaked out the front door.
James York:It's suspicious either way, but if he was registered as Rocky Balboa at the motel registry, that would be even more shady.
David Lyons:Oh, Rocky Balboa, Exactly yeah.
Wendy Lyons:Should we explain who that is for the young people who do not know? For you Zoomers out there, exactly, google it like everything else, google it.
David Lyons:So you're excited because you've got the vehicle, which means we can grab it, we can get it under a search warrant, we can take it back to the bay and we can process it. And it did get searched and processed later. It didn't yield anything that I recall at all, and so we call that goose eggs. We spend some time there late into the evening and early early hours the morning.
David Lyons:Uh and uh we we do a, an accident, a search of the room, because again, nobody's occupying it, whoever's had it's abandoned it, it's under the control of the hotel and the hotel can say, yes, you can search that room, and really didn't find anything. I remember at one point too that there was a like a vacant lot behind the hotel and we walked it all the way back to a little wood line and everything, and I think we found a shoe and I think we at least photographed it if we didn't take the shoe because we didn't know whose shoe it was. I mean, you just take those things when you see them in a field like that, and it's later and later and we have nothing.
David Lyons:So what we do at that point is we had contact at that point with the Shively Police Department. We made some contact with the Louisville Police Department. They helped us move around town and look at a couple of places that were adventurous, that somebody nefarious could be and whatever. And we saddle up and head back to Lexington. And we saddle up and head back to Lexington and I remember a bunch of us, we all met at Ramsey's to have breakfast.
David Lyons:A lot of murder cases are solved over a meal, and so we're all there and we're, and this is how it goes. It's like being in the bay. We're running through everything and we're like, where are we at? Because the next thing would be when everybody's been out for that long, is there a break period, a reasonable break period? And if you go too far, the boss will tell you you've got to go home because you shouldn't be out working on fumes. So we're sitting there and we're like, okay, we're probably there, we've still got some things to do, we still have all that out. And then I want to say the phone rang, but I think it was a pager. The kids will have to Google that too.
Wendy Lyons:They definitely will have to Google it.
David Lyons:But we get another call. We're getting ready to go and we get another call.
Wendy Lyons:Hey, you know there's more to this story, so go download the next episode, like the true crime fan that you are.
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David Lyons:Judy.
